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		<title>By: Emily Brackett</title>
		<link>http://www.visiblelogic.com/blog/2010/07/6-reasons-to-fire-toxic-clients/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Brackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mike H Thanks for stopping by and you are welcome to vent. I agree, it&#039;s best to avoid toxic clients, but we sometimes the signs are not clear. However, once you do recognize them as a poor client, it is best to avoid doing anything further with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike H Thanks for stopping by and you are welcome to vent. I agree, it&#8217;s best to avoid toxic clients, but we sometimes the signs are not clear. However, once you do recognize them as a poor client, it is best to avoid doing anything further with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
		<link>http://www.visiblelogic.com/blog/2010/07/6-reasons-to-fire-toxic-clients/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 03:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are in the process of dealing with a toxic (or as we had labelled them &quot;Rogue&quot;) client. This client has been with us for over 5 years and previously we have not experienced any payment issues. For some unknown reason suddenly the cost of the latest piece of work is in dispute. Lets not mention the fact that the client failed to deliver required material by an agreed date, gave us a required completion date, then mysteriously the need to have completed by that date changed after they decided to add multiple requests for additional work. Scope creep is what I call it. Phone calls go unanswered, e-mails are ignored. We all need to learn how to deal with these types of clients - guess the best way is to avoid them in the first place. Unfortunately the signs are not always obvious. The worst thing is that our graphic designer&#039;s confidence has taken a serious hit and she is somewhat despondent about the whole situation. Sorry to vent my frustration but knowing others are having similar issues and their responses to their situation does help. Still the sun will shine again tomorrow and we will be able to see what a beautiful world we live in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are in the process of dealing with a toxic (or as we had labelled them &#8220;Rogue&#8221;) client. This client has been with us for over 5 years and previously we have not experienced any payment issues. For some unknown reason suddenly the cost of the latest piece of work is in dispute. Lets not mention the fact that the client failed to deliver required material by an agreed date, gave us a required completion date, then mysteriously the need to have completed by that date changed after they decided to add multiple requests for additional work. Scope creep is what I call it. Phone calls go unanswered, e-mails are ignored. We all need to learn how to deal with these types of clients &#8211; guess the best way is to avoid them in the first place. Unfortunately the signs are not always obvious. The worst thing is that our graphic designer&#8217;s confidence has taken a serious hit and she is somewhat despondent about the whole situation. Sorry to vent my frustration but knowing others are having similar issues and their responses to their situation does help. Still the sun will shine again tomorrow and we will be able to see what a beautiful world we live in.</p>
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		<title>By: I am DONE with TOXIC Clients</title>
		<link>http://www.visiblelogic.com/blog/2010/07/6-reasons-to-fire-toxic-clients/#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator>I am DONE with TOXIC Clients</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] because I am not 21 anymore and has started valuing my time but to me it looks like I am DONE with toxic clients (there are at least two with us). They ask for everything, pays less/late and undermine work and [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] because I am not 21 anymore and has started valuing my time but to me it looks like I am DONE with toxic clients (there are at least two with us). They ask for everything, pays less/late and undermine work and [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Emily Brackett</title>
		<link>http://www.visiblelogic.com/blog/2010/07/6-reasons-to-fire-toxic-clients/#comment-981</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Brackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jane, sorry to hear about the situation. Hope you&#039;ve learned and can move forward.

When I hear these stories I can also see the far reaching ramifications of toxic clients. In your case you nearly lost your house. Think of how many more problems that would have caused you and others around you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, sorry to hear about the situation. Hope you&#8217;ve learned and can move forward.</p>
<p>When I hear these stories I can also see the far reaching ramifications of toxic clients. In your case you nearly lost your house. Think of how many more problems that would have caused you and others around you.</p>
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		<title>By: jane k</title>
		<link>http://www.visiblelogic.com/blog/2010/07/6-reasons-to-fire-toxic-clients/#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator>jane k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the writeup. I&#039;m so sick to my stomach with a client, which nearly resulted in me losing my house (late payment, really late). While I&#039;m partly to blame for concentrating on a project instead of spreading out, I was hoping that my work is paid on time, turned out the 2 months I spent on their project stretched to 4. I drained out all my savings on clearing up the mess and thank god I managed to stay on my two feet. The good thing is, I learnt to pick and choose my clients and soon, I&#039;ll move up to a rented place with extra after selling my house. No more mortgage in the meantime until I make enough to pay cash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the writeup. I&#8217;m so sick to my stomach with a client, which nearly resulted in me losing my house (late payment, really late). While I&#8217;m partly to blame for concentrating on a project instead of spreading out, I was hoping that my work is paid on time, turned out the 2 months I spent on their project stretched to 4. I drained out all my savings on clearing up the mess and thank god I managed to stay on my two feet. The good thing is, I learnt to pick and choose my clients and soon, I&#8217;ll move up to a rented place with extra after selling my house. No more mortgage in the meantime until I make enough to pay cash.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Brackett</title>
		<link>http://www.visiblelogic.com/blog/2010/07/6-reasons-to-fire-toxic-clients/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Brackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deborah, Thanks for weighing in. Good point about communication. It can be a fine line between someone giving me lots of great, useful info and then that overstepping into them just trying to make all the decisions. I think if you have good communication and a professional designer you&#039;ll get the best results once you step away a bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah, Thanks for weighing in. Good point about communication. It can be a fine line between someone giving me lots of great, useful info and then that overstepping into them just trying to make all the decisions. I think if you have good communication and a professional designer you&#8217;ll get the best results once you step away a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.visiblelogic.com/blog/2010/07/6-reasons-to-fire-toxic-clients/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yikes! As I read this blog, I felt two things:
1. I&#039;ve been in that situation where the &quot;client&quot; was a boss. I should have brought all of this to his attention and then moved on. (Lack of support, refusal to return calls/emails, inability to establish priorities, etc.)
2. I worry that I&#039;ve been this client! (Not with you, Emily. And not as bad as you describe.) I&#039;ve been a PITA client sometimes when I&#039;ve made assumptions that my designer knew what I was trying to accomplish as a business, and had thought through everything on the same obsessive level. So I&#039;ve been &quot;disappointed&quot; when our stars didn&#039;t align and they miss an obvious point. Communication is a lesson that is presented until it is learned!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes! As I read this blog, I felt two things:<br />
1. I&#8217;ve been in that situation where the &#8220;client&#8221; was a boss. I should have brought all of this to his attention and then moved on. (Lack of support, refusal to return calls/emails, inability to establish priorities, etc.)<br />
2. I worry that I&#8217;ve been this client! (Not with you, Emily. And not as bad as you describe.) I&#8217;ve been a PITA client sometimes when I&#8217;ve made assumptions that my designer knew what I was trying to accomplish as a business, and had thought through everything on the same obsessive level. So I&#8217;ve been &#8220;disappointed&#8221; when our stars didn&#8217;t align and they miss an obvious point. Communication is a lesson that is presented until it is learned!</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Brackett</title>
		<link>http://www.visiblelogic.com/blog/2010/07/6-reasons-to-fire-toxic-clients/#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Brackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunny, welcome to the blog. You mention a very important point: ignoring the profitable clients to service the bad ones. Now go fire &#039;em!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny, welcome to the blog. You mention a very important point: ignoring the profitable clients to service the bad ones. Now go fire &#8216;em!</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.visiblelogic.com/blog/2010/07/6-reasons-to-fire-toxic-clients/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 11:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh...  I so total agree. I am in the midst of firing one right now. Can you imagine, client request for more stuff , but dun even want to pay a single cent....I have been neglecting my more profitable clients...NO MORE OF THIS...Tomorrow is so going to be a great and fantastic day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230;  I so total agree. I am in the midst of firing one right now. Can you imagine, client request for more stuff , but dun even want to pay a single cent&#8230;.I have been neglecting my more profitable clients&#8230;NO MORE OF THIS&#8230;Tomorrow is so going to be a great and fantastic day.</p>
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